Comments on: Orange – Gigs and Tours

By: Lee

Lee — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:03:09 +0000

Not as bad as the reserve tank one.
I’ve got to admit I didn’t know who this advert was for though (effective advertising?) as I usually get bored with them after 10 seconds and start talking or turn over or something.

By: Silky

Silky — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:22:38 +0000

Cheers, Steve. I bow to your greater knowledge here

Glad you like the site too.

By: stevemosby

stevemosby — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:32:28 +0000

Well, it seems churlish to argue with ‘Allo ‘Allo, but Leclerc is wrong too.

You’d say “my wife and I” if they were doing something, but you’d say “my wife and me” if something was being done to them. Same as you’d say “She and I bought something” but then “The something was bought by me and her”. ‘I’ becomes ‘me’ the same way ‘she’ becomes ‘her’. Subject becomes object. It’s only wrong if you say “My wife and me did something”.

I apologise for bringing this up. I’m now going to go away and link to your site, because it’s ace.

By: Silky

Silky — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:53:00 +0000

Ah, if the Internet was made for two things it’s writing about terrible television adverts and discussing the finer points of English grammar….

You know, I was complaining more about the “me” before the “a friend” to be honest, but I’m still not convinced, Steve.

I can only think of 2 examples from modern usage (gosh, I sound like Fowler):

If you substituted “my wife” in place of “a friend” you would say “and I” rather than “and me” (unless you’re on Eastenders (but then you would also say “the missus” rather than “my wife”)).

Er, and “It is I, Leclerc” from ‘Allo ‘Allo (I like to think that no discussion is complete without a reference from ‘Allo ‘Allo).

Though you are right, I would never say “They need I”. So maybe they didn’t teach me nothing at school neither.

By: stevemosby

stevemosby — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:57:50 +0000

Sorry about this: you’re wrong about the grammar. “They need a friend and me” is correct. If you removed the friend from the sentence you’d be left with “They need me”. You wouldn’t say “They need I”, and “They need a friend and I” is just as wrong. Subject/object difference.

Shit ad, though.

By: PCWB

PCWB — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:52:30 +0000

I have been waiting for you to have a go at this one Silky. It really is the most annoying pile of pap that I have heard since my friends arm got caught in a blender. The advert is that annoying that everytime I see it now I get an imaginary gun from behind the sofa and treat the whole scene as a shooting gallery hoping to silence the tuneless bint who’s caterwauling. Which focus group did they show this to – a bunch of pissed students that had just been out on the lash – terrible.