Also were not Monkeys i have a First Class Hons Degree in Computer Science & Business and am currently studying for a Masters in Computer Science part time i normally get a distinction for my Modules!!

So PUT THAT IN YOUR F$%^KING PIPES AN SMOKE IT C%^TS

Two fucking words. Particle board.

Go fuck a spider you worthless ingrate. Or better still please let us all know how skillfull a job you do by telling us the name of the university in which you got your degree in “Kitchen Design”

# I have had a meeting with 3 different kitchen designers and they have all suggested ideas that I had not even considered before the meeting. #

That just means that they are salesmen that are familiar with their products, not that they are innovative or clever.

PROTIP: Want to save some money? Ask around your friends, bet you a quid one of them either fits flatpack kitchens or knows someone who does, And ask them to do it for you. They will measure up properly, get what you need, (probably cheaper too,) and fit it in two days.

NOTIP: Or you could go to Magnet and you’ll pay twice the amount for the same guy to come round and do the same fucking job.

Saying kitchen design is easy is the same as saying a web designer or graphic designer is easy. just not true.

Although its true that the job is heavily reliant on a CAD package but you need to be a competant CAD driver to make it work, there is a long thouight process involved in putting the correct things in the best place, both practically and asthetically.

I am a kitchen DESIGNER for magnet and will be the first to admit that there are plenty of people out there both for magnet and others that shouldn’t be doing it but if it was so simple, then why have MFI gone bust.

Its a very competative market and my average appointment in the store is 2 hours. if i didn’t know what i was doing i couldn’t fill 2 hours talking about kitchens.

Im sorry but i take it quite personally when i bunch of people like you, who’s jobs are probably about as complicated as ‘so called childrens building blocks’ come on here and as mallie says, slag off kitchen designers for the adverts magnet probably paid millions to some marketing company to produce for them.

The piece is more of a cheap shot at Magnet “Kitchen Designers” who, from my experience, do little more than drag icons around a screen until they’ve made them fit in all the right holes.

I’d hate to undermine 12 years hard work on your part… as long as you don’t sell people “special food preparation areas”.

It’s true that some kitchen designers ARE just trying to sell you a kitchen – try inviting Kitchens Direct or Space Kitchens, or any other direct sellers, into your home and that’ll become immediately obvious. It’s also true that some kitchen designers are not good at their jobs – but it’s not true that they don’t need to be. After all, if Lee’s kitchen designer HAD been any good – then the measurements wouldn’t have been wrong twice.

I design both tiny and enormous kitchens but the trend is actually towards larger kitchens … lots of people are knocking down walls or building extensions so that they can make their kitchens bigger.

If you want to get real, then blame the marketing people for the adverts – not the designers who probably knew nothing about it before they appeared.

They are, however, brilliant at using a software package that works out the cost of your kitchen to be exactly the same price regardless of what you ask for thanks to the wonders of “discounts”.